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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #18 - May 17th, 2011 at 3:18am
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Read this resolution for totaling problem -

You may also need to copy MemberStats.txt as described in the Setup.pl prompt. The forum I upgraded did not have that file.

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1281804647

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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #17 - May 5th, 2011 at 11:36pm
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I'm glad you got the category thing sorted.

Well - the post count issue seems to be a new one, look at the other thread I have in teh Bugs board.

I think its cosmetic, in other words the forum works right, but the baords don't total for some reason.  That implies (to me at least) that a  FIXED 'RECOUNT BOARDS' should do the trick, but I'm not a devloper on this project and am not a Perl coder to the level I can debug something like this.

About who uses YaBB -

The user I'm helping is in the staffing field, I can't speak for anyone else. I actaully don't personally know of any porn sites/boards using YaBB, but I am sure a few exist.  Forum software is a good tool for 'pirate boards' of all types.   The big choices for pirate boards seem to be inVision, Vbulletin, MyBB and phpBB, as they are written in PHP and use MySQL - meaning lots of programmers to write code fixes, add-ins.  Yabb - on the other hand - is written in Perl (few coders) and uses a proprietary falt-file system (meaning only a very, very few know how it works) - witness the current situation..

whatever, LOL.

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Reply #16 - May 5th, 2011 at 10:06pm
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JonB wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 9:15pm:
I did not have your problem with Categories and Boards.

as for the other issue:

What I told another user:

Before I say anything more I 'think' - THIS IS A COSMETIC PROBLEM (in my opinion) here is why.

The problem seems to be that the forum can't total total the number of posts in each board. All your data (posts and members) is there (you can look through it).

Sooo - I 'think' the fix for the problem is a 'code fix'. Meaning a programmer from the team may discover that an error is occurring, with a line of code, correct the error - and then have us/you fix your forum by re-running the Board recount.

BUT - no one knows that at the moment, and they will likely want to look at the data after conversion (to see what has happened or not)

SO I recommend we leave everything as is, and see what the developers say.

MY OPINION ONLY

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Hello again, Jon, and thanks for the help.

This is what I tried in the past hour, and it seems to have worked to an extent, as I noticed another issue, related or not, I do not know.

So,...my 1.4 layout is as follows,...3 cats, 8 boards.  6 boards in the default cat (general_cat),...and then 1 board in each of the 2 other cats I created.  After the conversion, ONLY the default cat and it's 6 boards were visible on the index page.  At this point, I did NOT adjust any settings at all.

So, what I did, and not sure why this worked,...also, keep in mind, I did various tests over a 2 hour period, trying anything I could think of,...

In the end,...I moved all of the boards into a newly created cat.  The index didn't show any cats or boards now.  Ran all of the maintenance controls, nothing appeared to change.  Moved the boards back to their respective cats, ran all of the maintenance controls.  Once again, as before, I could only see the default cat and boards, no totals on index.  Back to admin, edit all 6 boards,...ticked off SHOW TO ALL, and selected all member groups in Group Permissions, in all 4 areas.  Index, no change.  Ran all of the maintenance controls again,...now on index, all totals displayed for default cat and boards.  But remaining 2 cats and 2 boards still not visible on index.  Then moved remaining 2 boards into the default cat,...ran all of the maintenance controls again,...totals now showing for those 2 on index.  Moved those 2 boards back into their respective cats,...totals continued to show.  Went back to admin controls for boards,...unticked SHOW TO ALL, and deselected all member groups for every board.  Ran all of the maintenance controls again, just to be sure,...index still looks correct for board totals,...topics and posts,...as well as all Last Post info.

So, why anyway of this worked, I do not know, but much trial and error to get to this point.  By moving boards around as I did, turning permissions on and then off, maybe I somehow reset something so the board activity could be read properly by the scripts? Again, no idea.  All I know is that it worked.

Still checking things out, hoping all is well.  Also hoping that this is now a permanent fix, going forward.  Guess I won't know for a while.

BUT,...for now anyway, just discovered that post counts do not rest after posts are deleted.  During the above processes, I did a few test posts with my admin account, and a test account I created years ago.  After I resolved the issue with the counts on the index page, I went back and deleted these posts.  I ran all of the maintenance controls again, but the post counts for each account did not decrease.  Although, the total forum topics and total forum posts did decrease to the proper number, which is displayed on the bottom of the index page.

So,..is THIS a known issue?  Is there a fix?  Will it self correct later?  Should I just correct it manually?

I'm sorry this post is so long, and rambling, but going on almost no sleep for 2+ days.  Figured that if I gave you more info than less, it would help you to answer.  Also, maybe someone is having a similar issue.

FYI,...whether this matters or not,...and I mention this since it seems several people asking for help are running porn sites,...my forum is a music related site, for fans of a band.  They post concert pics, talk about gigs, merchandise, etc, etc.

Thanks again for all of your help.  Please let me know if you now have any ideas about the individual post counters.
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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #15 - May 5th, 2011 at 9:15pm
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I did not have your problem with Categories and Boards.

as for the other issue:

What I told another user:

Before I say anything more I 'think' - THIS IS A COSMETIC PROBLEM (in my opinion) here is why.

The problem seems to be that the forum can't total total the number of posts in each board. All your data (posts and members) is there (you can look through it).

Sooo - I 'think' the fix for the problem is a 'code fix'. Meaning a programmer from the team may discover that an error is occurring, with a line of code, correct the error - and then have us/you fix your forum by re-running the Board recount.

BUT - no one knows that at the moment, and they will likely want to look at the data after conversion (to see what has happened or not)

SO I recommend we leave everything as is, and see what the developers say.

MY OPINION ONLY

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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #14 - May 5th, 2011 at 7:13pm
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JonB wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 6:39pm:
I am testing something in the next couple hours, I will let you know

I have reported it as a possible bug



Just noticed something else,...

Seems I can create new cats and new boards, but only 1 cat is visible on the forum index.  Have tried creating new ones, deleting, moving, etc,...none of it makes any difference.
  
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Reply #13 - May 5th, 2011 at 6:47pm
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JonB wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 6:39pm:
I am testing something in the next couple hours, I will let you know

I have reported it as a possible bug



Thanks.

I'll be here waiting.
  
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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #12 - May 5th, 2011 at 6:39pm
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I am testing something in the next couple hours, I will let you know

I have reported it as a possible bug
  

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Reply #11 - May 5th, 2011 at 6:23pm
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JonB wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 3:41pm:
I just did a conversion for a 1.4 forum and found the same problem.

I got no board totals, no matter how you recount.

I'm going to say possible bug.

Angry



Ughh.  Not what I wanted to hear.

I'm under the gun to get this working, and obviously can't run the board this way.  Although I've already put in a great deal of time into this, should I start over and upgrade 1.4 to a an earlier version,...2.x?,...and then upgrade that to 2.5?  If so, which version should I go to first?

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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #10 - May 5th, 2011 at 3:41pm
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I just did a conversion for a 1.4 forum and found the same problem.

I got no board totals, no matter how you recount.

I'm going to say possible bug.

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Reply #9 - May 5th, 2011 at 11:11am
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To follow up,...

I did a test post in one of the boards,...successful.  But it had no affect on any of the info being updated for that board,..topics, posts, etc.

Also noticed this on the index page:

The forum contains a total of 0 Posts within 0 Topics.
The most recent post is ().


Below that, when I selected the "View the x most recent posts", my test post was listed.

I then sent that post to the Recycle Bin,...successful.  But again, it did not update the info for that board,...topics, posts, etc.

I figure this must be an easy thing to fix, but I can't figure it out.  Must relate to the "forum.totals" in the BOARDS folder, no?

Again, any help appreciated.

Thanks.
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Reply #8 - May 5th, 2011 at 10:36am
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Hello again.

Seems I have at least one problem post-conversion which I can't seem to solve.

I ran all of the recommended maintenance controls on the forum after the conversion, but all of my boards still show ZERO posts and ZERO topics on the main forum page.

When I enter each board, all of the topics and posts seem to be there.  In fact, the values for REPLIES and VIEWS noted for each topic seem to be accurate.

Also, LAST POST info is also missing.  "N/A" is noted in place of all values that would normally be there.

Is there something else I need to do in order to restore all of this?

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Re: Error when converting YaBB 1.4 to YaBB 2.5 AE
Reply #7 - May 5th, 2011 at 9:41am
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JonB wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 12:45am:
I'm a bit surprised they are holding your feet to the fire on file count (unless the plan is very very low cost or free), disk space is usually the issue.

Not really - under *nix type filesystems commonly used by hosting providers, eg ufs, ext3 etc, with YaBB, inodes are more of an issue than disk space when you have thousands of small files.  My own YaBB has around 400,000 files (which is bad for *nix performance), but takes less than 1Gb of disk space.
  
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Reply #6 - May 5th, 2011 at 5:39am
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JonB wrote on May 5th, 2011 at 12:45am:
Well - Good Luck

I ran into the same problem just yesterday while helping someone, and was about to point out the 'root' problem - ":The CHMOD of the ./Boards are not set correct! Can't write this directory! Disk quota exceeded "  I'm a bit surprised they are holding your feet to the fire on file count (unless the plan is very very low cost or free), disk space is usually the issue.

A tough way to learn, here's hoping they can be reasonable

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Thanks, Jon.  I did convince my host to increase my file limits from 20,000 to 200,000, at no additional cost.  Paying $16.00/month, which is well above the really cheap hosts, from what I know.

Once they unlocked me and increased my file limit, I was able to complete the conversion!  Still need to install a few of Carsten's mods, and run maintenance on the new install, but I think I should be in good shape.  Knock on wood.

FYI,...excited to run 2.5, with expanded Spam controls.  For several reasons, over the past year, I had to turn over day-to-day operations of my forum to someone else who didn't actually keep an eye on things.  Well, during that time, I had about 7,000 spam-related accounts created, most from a handful of users or bots.  Combined, maybe about 15,000 posts.

So, all this means is now I will now have to go through all of these accounts to find the legit users from the spammers.  Won't be difficult to figure out which is which, but will be very time consuming.  Hopefully with the new controls of 2.5 in place, I can keep most of these fools off my boards and keep the forum running smoothly once I reopen it.

Thanks again!
  
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Reply #5 - May 5th, 2011 at 12:45am
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Well - Good Luck

I ran into the same problem just yesterday while helping someone, and was about to point out the 'root' problem - ":The CHMOD of the ./Boards are not set correct! Can't write this directory! Disk quota exceeded "  I'm a bit surprised they are holding your feet to the fire on file count (unless the plan is very very low cost or free), disk space is usually the issue.

A tough way to learn, here's hoping they can be reasonable

Good Luck
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Reply #4 - May 4th, 2011 at 10:04pm
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Well, after spending probably 15 hours of line-by-line code reading, looking for an answer to this problem, I called my host company and found out they have a 20,000 file cap on my account.  Very odd.  I am using less than 1% of my allotted disc space, but they say they locked down my account due to the amount of files, which is over 100,000 presently while in the middle of the conversion.

Would have been great had they explained that I had such a limit when I created a new account with them, but they did not.  They only told me that there was a disc space limit.

So, on the phone with them now, and trying to avoid having to pay additional fees to allow a greater amount of files.  Hopefully they'll see my point that I shouldn't have to pay for a higher file allotment when my disc space allotment is less than 1%.

Thanks for the help, and sorry to bother you with a NON YaBB issue.
  
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