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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #45 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 1:45am
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S.P.Robinson wrote on Nov 28th, 2011 at 1:39am:
Sure enough, I made the change locally but somehow neglected to upload that file.

Works now.

Thanks as always. I don't think I have ever encountered a help site that was as genuinely helpful as this site is, and you, Derek, in particular. Thanks!

Thank you for the nice words, and you're very welcome. I'm glad it's working for you. Smiley
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Reply #46 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 3:23am
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Can you post link to the directions to edit the files for Anti-Spam Question
for yabb 2.4 and 2.5
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Thanks.
  
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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #47 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 3:38am
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Hi,

I replied to your post here on installing Mods:

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1320402824/11#11

You might also find this link useful for installing with BoardMod:

http://www.carsten-dalgaard.dk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1322256476/0#0
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Reply #48 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 4:19am
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Does SpamFruits
work for yabb 2.2 ?
  
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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #49 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 4:29am
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I've no idea I'm afraid. You would just have to try to run it and see.

Even if it doesn't install with BoardMod though, it will just be because the search strings have changed, so you could try to adapt it and install it manually.
  
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Reply #50 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 4:30am
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Derek Barnstorm wrote on Nov 28th, 2011 at 3:38am:
Hi,

I replied to your post here on installing Mods:

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1320402824/11#11

You might also find this link useful for installing with BoardMod:

http://www.carsten-dalgaard.dk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1322256476/0#0


Thanks. I didnt see the directions in the down load. I found them. Thanks.

Do you know if the work for yabb 2.2 anti-spam question and fruits. I have yabb 2.2, a 2.4 and 2.5. do I need  to upgrade the 2.2 first?
Thanks again.
  
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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #51 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 4:41am
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The Anti-Spam Question won't install with 2.2, no. The same as I mentioned above though, it might work with a bit of adapting.

And I haven't tested it on 2.4. If the 2.5 version doesn't install on 2.4 though, then you could try the mod file for 2.3 attached to this post here (one of them should work):

http://www.boardmod.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1316894374/4#4

There's a sticky here with the versions that the anti-spam mods will work on:

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1321729071/0#0
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Reply #52 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 5:00am
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for the fruits, in the last file edit, the code to find is a bit different. It had a  "(" included in the code. I didnt want to try it though.
  
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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #53 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 5:07am
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That will be fine. In 2.2 just add after:

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    &fatal_error("no_reg_reason") if ($member{'reason'} eq "" && $regtype == 1); 


Instead of (2.5):

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    &fatal_error("no_reg_reason") if $member{'reason'} eq "" && $regtype == 1; 



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Reply #54 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 10:36pm
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Thanks, that works for yabb 2.2, 2.4 and 2.5.
  
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Reply #55 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 1:55am
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No worries.
  
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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #56 - Dec 5th, 2011 at 4:10pm
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This Topic was moved here from General Usage and Feature Troubleshooting [move by] JonB.
  

I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #57 - Dec 9th, 2011 at 7:11pm
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Dandello wrote on Dec 9th, 2011 at 3:50pm:
You don't say which version of YaBB you're running. First - make sure you have the recommended anti-spam mods running, the stopforumspam mod being the first - that automatically disallows anyone already on the list.

2, add either the Spam Fruits or Anti-spam quiz mod. If you choose the anti-spam quiz mod, make sure to add your own unique questions to it.

Between those two, the attacks should go down to a dull roar.

And the 'regular' anti-spam board is here http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?board=antispam

Thank you Dandello!

I've never used any of the Board Mod services; to get it going just seems too darned complicated.

SpamFruits, for instance, looks great, but there only seems to be a download icon, and no instructions. Pretty to look at, but for a non-geek like me, how in the world is it installed?

Please keep in mind that the majority of webmasters like me, won't be as savvy about these things like the rest of you are. You guys know these things like the back of your hand. I think this may be one of the reasons that Facebook took off like it did; no fuss, no muss; just do.

I had quite a learning curve back in 2002 while trying to follow what to the rest of you are easy instructions to install YaBB. I was so afraid of it that I stayed with YaBB 1.4 until about 2 1/2 years ago when I finally upgraded to YaBB 2.4 ... really only doing this because spammers were inundating me with spam posts. I needed to have a moderator on duty 24/7. Thankfully, surfers from around the world visit our forum, so at least we had options.

YaBB 2.4 is obviously far better. Unfortunately, even though spammers are unable to post in our forum because admin approval is needed to finish their registrations, I'm still invalidating or deleting a couple hundred attempted registrations every day. Yes, it's easy to do, and it only takes a few short minutes, but it's still a pain.

So, from someone relatively ignorant like me who isn't as savvy as the rest of you, using Board Mod seems daunting. As for the webmaster community in general, chat forums are simply too complicated to stay abreast of in terms of fighting spam, and installing updates, which is why it seems that so many are simply socializing their websites via Facebook and Twitter.

Obviously, to survive with YaBB, I need to get my act together, and get back to that learning curve to figure this stuff out.  Wink

But on that note, think of it from my perspective, and frankly, the majority of other webmasters; if experts like many of you here are unable to get in front of these spammers, how in the world are people like me going to stay on top of this?

In the glass half full department, YaBB 2.4 is very clearly a terrific forum that runs quite well when everything has been installed correctly. And the spammer issue? Bottom line, they aren't able to post any spam in our forum.  Cool

Edited:
Corrected a spelling error.  Wink


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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #58 - Dec 9th, 2011 at 7:44pm
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Well my two forums have had 1 spammer get through to the point of my actually having a notice that I had someone waiting for approval. And considering I was getting a couple hundred spam registration attempts a week before I added the mods, I figure they work.

As for complexity - I'm a member on a number of admin forums and one of the big complaints is spam - EXCEPT on the one that caters more to the programmer types. It's my observation that running any forum requires at least a moderate level of understanding the underlying language - not just for YaBB but for any of them. Too many people think that software is an install and walk-away proposition, but it isn't, as you know.

Somewhere over on the mod board there should be understandable instructions for adding a mod - it looks daunting, but once you get your brain around it, it shouldn't be too bad. And Carsten and the other guys over there don't bite.



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Re: Still perplexed on "spamming" issues.
Reply #59 - Dec 9th, 2011 at 8:15pm
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Dandello wrote on Dec 9th, 2011 at 7:44pm:
Somewhere over on the mod board there should be understandable instructions for adding a mod - it looks daunting, but once you get your brain around it, it shouldn't be too bad. And Carsten and the other guys over there don't bite.

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Okay; think I got it. First one needs to install BoardMod, and then add mods like SpamFruits, etc. For now I may wait since things don't seem quite up to date in that forum; kind of like here; still trying to get their footing back.

Thanks Dandello. I appreciate the encouragement. I'll figure it out just as I did with YaBB back in 2002. Ironically, once I got past the learning curve of how to install YaBB correctly, I ended up being a "go to guy" for YaBB installations. Go figure.

I'm reminded of the time when a company asked me if I could set up a database for them on their Macs. I didn't know one thing about a Mac, but I was pretty well versed with PC databases, and I knew that a Mac was very user friendly. So while I'm learning what to do, as they're watching, I somehow figured it out, and got a database going for them. But again, Mac is user-friendly, relatively speaking.

The environment for "newbies" here in YaBB support wasn't particularly friendly in the old days, so webmasters who asked for my support were "afraid" to participate here as I suggested. Still, some of them chose to use YaBB even though as the years passed pretty much all of them left YaBB for easier, and more friendly pastures. i.e., many hired staff to operate other forums, and blogs. It seems that a lot of them now rely on user-friendly social networks like Facebook. Again; no fuss, no muss.

In any case, hopefully after the holidays I'll be able to spend some time on the Board Mod to figure out how everything works. Thanks again.

For me personally, excluding mainstream projects, maintaining a chat forum versus Facebook (really in addition to it) is the way to go. That's why I'm hoping I can get up to speed again with the learning curve of using YaBB.


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