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Reply #36 - Apr 19th, 2012 at 3:25pm
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You probably already know this, but ...

Whenever you make a change to a profile field, or add one, that will change ALL profiles. No biggie, but when you do this you'll notice that a backup of your forum will take longer to do if you have a lot of members.

A fresh backup will of course take some time.

Oh ... if you're not backing up your forum, however you want to do it, I strongly recommend it.  Wink
  

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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #35 - Apr 18th, 2012 at 8:40am
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Whoops! Silly me.  Roll Eyes

I somehow came across the 1st post in this topic, and had forgotten that I had read through this topic before, i.e., that there may be a bug going on with this solution to stop spammers from successfully registering. But more importantly, adding a profile field to the registration page that requires input can break a forum.

Yikes!  Shocked

So just for the heck of it, because I thought this solution was pretty cool since it can be implemented through the Admin Center, I gave it a try.

Luckily, our forum didn't break, BUT ... that may have been because I chose not to include the "Security Check" field to show up anywhere except on the registration page.

In any case, before I read through this topic again to see that there may be a problem with this solution, I deleted the "Security Check" field. After all, I already implemented an effective anti-spam captcha edit to stop spam-bots, and hu-bots are easy enough to deny.

As for including effective anti-spam tools in Admin Center for those of us who need to administer our forums as simply as possible (in a user friendly way), I think that's a great idea.

  

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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #34 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 5:35pm
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UVT -

I guess you did not read this thread very well. 

If you attempt tp use this tool for an existing board with active members you will break the board.

DO NOT IMPLEMENT THIS IDEA UNTIL A PATCH OR FIX IS DONE>>>

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Reply #33 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 3:02pm
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Great idea. Where do we edit / add new profile fields?
  
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Reply #32 - Dec 28th, 2011 at 7:27pm
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The problem with Adding Required Extended Profiles to registration process, and the outcomes for existing members has been added to 'Bugs'

Sorry for the delay -

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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #31 - Dec 22nd, 2011 at 1:05am
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Paul -

I don't think this has been tagged as a bug - I am looking into it.

thanks
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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #30 - Dec 17th, 2011 at 4:24pm
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Andy, Derek, Jon
Any update on trying to use this type registration procedure? Our forum is still effectively blocked by using it

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Reply #29 - Dec 6th, 2011 at 1:55am
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Guys,
I just tried registering on our forum, with the "trap" enabled. This is a screenshot of what I get when I click OK on the registration page:

Even for a new unregistered member, there appears to be an issue with the required field.

Ideas?

Paul
« Last Edit: Dec 6th, 2011 at 1:57am by Paul P »  

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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #28 - Dec 5th, 2011 at 4:10pm
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This Topic was moved here from General Usage and Feature Troubleshooting [move by] JonB.
  

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Reply #27 - Dec 2nd, 2011 at 2:38pm
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@ Derek -

OK, I have tested it on your board - I see the problem.

I guess we do need the 'fix basically as described below'

Option in Extended Profiles to

'add this required field to existing members' (update vars)
   Place board in Maintenance
      Iterate members
          add field set to default value
      close
      report
      OK - yes/no
  Remove maintenance

I think I have an idea - but I need to 'play with it'  Wink

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Reply #26 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 4:21pm
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If the option is under Admin Edits though, users can't edit their profiles at all - it throws an error for all profile edits. If you log into my test board with the details in my last post you'll see what I mean (I only added it for the sake of this post though, so it won't be like that for long).

I still can't get it to behave as Paul describes myself, entering a value and saving under Admin Edits works fine for me. Undecided

I really wouldn't recommend using this method to successfully stop spam anyway. Since I added this to my test board yesterday, I have had over ten spammers get straight past it (and that's just a test board, with no traffic). If you want to use Questions and Answers then use the Anti-Spam Question Mod.
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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #25 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 12:24pm
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First - if they can log in - this field will not affect anything functional - the Extended Profile fields are purely cosmetic display - they allow you to add information, but are not used for any 'checks' other than at registration time.  YaBB functionality is all governed by Member groups and Admin Edits to Member groups.

I 'think' this is the right way to handle this.

Post a sticky note, or a Global Announcement - to the effect "Do not attempt to edit your 'Spam kicker' Extended Profile field" n the User Control Panel, while Derek and I do some 'Barnstorming' err 'BrainStorming'  Wink

There is actually no need to fill it in.

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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #24 - Dec 1st, 2011 at 1:47am
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I am using version 2.5AE

I enabled show the field in user profile and "admin edit". I then go to a user and go to the admin edits tab. The field  is there, but when I put in the answer "38" and click OK, the next page to pop up is the "this is a required field". No option to return or do anything. When I leave and return, the data is not saved.

In essence, it locks the account from any changes and from what I read, till that field is filled.

Is there a way to propagate these fields for existing members?

regarding the logon, it doesn't block them from logon but I can't say what features of the program may be disabled or blocked by this field not being filled.

I tried logging on as a new user and find a new user after filling in all the information, is also presented with the "required field" screen, effectively blocking the registration (Now, that's a way to deal with the spammers  Cheesy ).

New to the YaBB system. Should this be reported somewhere?

Paul
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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #23 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 4:44pm
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JonB wrote on Nov 30th, 2011 at 4:33pm:
@ Derek - Is that in all versions with Extended Profiles???

I think I've only noticed it since 2.4, but I'm guessing it's been that way from the start, yeah.

JonB wrote on Nov 30th, 2011 at 4:38pm:
f a member is already registered -  and does not have the 'antispam' field in their profile - are tehy prevented from logging in - or is it just that they cannot edit the new field???

They can login, they just can't edit their profile.

Have a go here:

http://ibrainstorm.net/modemos/forum/YaBB.pl

Username: test
Password: modtester

I've just added a required field on registration which is only editable under Admin Edits - try to save any of the profile settings...

Edited:
JonB wrote on Nov 30th, 2011 at 4:33pm:
Sounds like a tool is need to 'fix existing members' - when adding a new field.
Heh - good luck on that, eh?

Yeah, no one to report bugs to at the moment. Sad
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Re: Forum Spam - Our Solution
Reply #22 - Nov 30th, 2011 at 4:38pm
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Hmm -

If a member is already registered -  and does not have the 'antispam' field in their profile - are tehy prevented from logging in - or is it just that they cannot edit the new field????

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