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 Nov 19th, 2011 at 3:16pm
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So many FAKE registers!
I was thinking but I can't do it (not think make the changes).

Why can't someone make the registeration captcha that it's not just one captcha but a number of them, you choose how many you want to use. Each captcha could use the basic captcha letters, numbers, etc., but each one in use would be a random length.

So if you had 2 or 3 in use, each one would be a different length and each have there own letters and numbers.

So instead of using just one captcha, you would have to enter a few in like when you enter numbers to activate a TracFone.

Anyone getting what I mean? I think this would cut way, way down on fake registerations.
 
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 Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2011 at 7:54pm
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Hi campage1,

The thing is with that, is it really wouldn't be user friendly - it would end up annoying legitimate users.

If you're getting spam on your forum, have you checked out any of these Mods?

http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1321729071

I'd personally recommend a combination of either:

StopForumSpam Mod and Anti-Spam Question

Or:

StopForumSpam Mod and SpamFruits

That should do a pretty good job at keeping spam out of your forum.
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 Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2011 at 9:24pm
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Re: So many FAKE registers!
I was getting about 30 a day and I installed SpamFruits and now I don't get any.
Thanks for the fix.
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 Reply #3 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 7:00pm
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Re: So many FAKE registers!
Yes, it might be annoying, but that is the purpose, humans that register to post SPAM might soon wuiy being its a pain to register. Then also people get annoyed that they can't register at all but through the admin.

If I visit a foum and see something I'd like to post about or reply to a message, I don't feel like waiting for a day, 2 or 3 until the admin gets around to registering me.

I was looking to have a mixed letter/number captcua after filling it out it would load a picture where you had to type in the name of the picture, then back to the letter/number. If they got all three correct they would be registered.

I can't lever the registration tab on, can't leave replys on, etc. Nothing can be on or I get fake registrations or SPAM posted. I'm at the point now I keep thinking what's the use anymore....?

I'll take a look at that link and the program its linked to and see what happens with it. I don't get any SPAM posted, just fake registrations if I leave the registration tab on.

With all the registrations I don't know who is real and who is fake. For all I know I might be banning real people making them mad and not come back.

People still add minutes in TracFones and that used to be like 8 different lines of digits. M<aybe that has changed sinse the last time I used one, years ago.

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll take a look.
 
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 Reply #4 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:09pm
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I totally understand why you want to make it difficult, but you should find that the Mods I linked to in my last post will solve your false registration and spam problems. Give them a go and see how you get on.

« Last Edit: Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:11pm by Derek Barnstorm »  
 
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 Reply #5 - Nov 21st, 2011 at 8:41pm
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I was looking to have a mixed letter/number captcua after filling it out it would load a picture where you had to type in the name of the picture, then back to the letter/number. If they got all three correct they would be registered.


Great news! YaBB is written in Perl and its Open Source, so you can create your own...

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 Reply #6 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 12:48pm
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Re: So many FAKE registers!
Thenks Derek! That seemed to work! Did have a little trouble installing the Mod being I haven't installed a Mod in  few years and had to figure it all out again how to run the ModBoard and install the new mods.

Seems everything worked out ok being everything seems to be working.

Thanks again for the Mod link! I don't come around here very often, pretty much only when I have a problem and can't find an answer to fix or correct it.

Thanks again!
Dave

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No problem, Dave.

Which Mod did you go for, out of interest?
 
 
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This Topic was moved here from General Usage and Feature Troubleshooting by JonB.
 
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 Reply #9 - Dec 7th, 2011 at 4:42am
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Re: So many FAKE registers!
Keep in mind I'm posting these thoughts without fully reviewing all the mods available for YaBB spam.

I've noticed a pattern.  When I occassionally change the captcha setup (distortion, colors, length, key, etc.) the spam registrations are not successful for a while and the error log reports a lot of captcha codes being input incorrectly.  This requires active moderation because they eventually crack your changes.  However, you'll notice that these repeat attempts are from a few IP addresses at a time over and over.

It would seem that the simplest solution would be to automatically ban the IP address in the Guardian .htaccess list after a certain number (changeable as a setting) of failed attempts within a certain amount of time.  

Additionally, what if the captcha could "change" itself.  In other words, perhaps with every so many registration attempts (could be randomized), the setting for how long the captcha is and/or the encryption key varies automatically.  A count could be kept, and once it is reached, the captcha settings change themselves in Settings.pl.  This way it is dynamic and would be harder for these programs to keep up with.

Lastly, I have been making use of the "Reserved Names" setting to reserve any spam words I see in the display names, such as "ugg", "online drugs", and "viagra" to name a few seen here today.  This way they cannot register another account with a similar name.  If we build a good list by having other admins share theirs, it could become part of the default file in the YaBB package.
 
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 Reply #10 - Dec 7th, 2011 at 5:50am
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If we build a good list by having other admins share theirs,


Corey (and everyone) that's exactly the purpose of the "My Favorite Spammers' topic...

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