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site YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 8 YaBB 2.6.0	2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Feb 4^th, 2012 at 12:33pm
	hello and thanks for a nice site and BB. History: I did run/install the yabb installation from CPANEL of my host. All seemes to be ok. I backupped the forum. Then I have (tried) update from 2.3.1 to 2.5 using the upgrade zip-file. When I tried to login as admin I got an error and files was set to a lower security mode. I did the chmods settings again, by using filezilla client. The error I get is: Paste from mainboard: No Masterkey was set in the Security Settings/Validation Image section of the Admin Center Now using default value which is less safe!! paste end I have no access to admin settings. Anyone able to guide me in this topic? Thank You regards


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site YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 8 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #1 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:17pm
	forgot the url adress to my BB: site.priv.no/Yabb regards


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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #2 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:51pm
	Hi site - Question - are you saying A. - you are unable to login as 'admin'? or B. - Are you saying you able to login as admin, but you cannot access the Admin Center in YaBB? If B - You may need to use this fix: (second on the page) http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?num=1198940158/0#2 If need be - read this post on the issues of 2.3.1 to 2.5: http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1282541343 Good Luck
	« Last Edit: Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:54pm by JonB »
	I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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site YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 8 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #3 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:36pm
	JonB wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:51pm: Hi site - Question - are you saying A. - you are unable to login as 'admin'? or B. - Are you saying you able to login as admin, but you cannot access the Admin Center in YaBB? If B - You may need to use this fix: (second on the page) http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?num=1198940158/0#2 If need be - read this post on the issues of 2.3.1 to 2.5: http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1282541343 Good Luck Hello again. I can login as administrator. The Admin menu item didnt showup after login, so I edited the Settings.pl adding a suggestion given in another posting. Then the Admin came back. Im not able to reach the Admin panel. The message still shows up as in my initial posting. I will read your links. Thank You


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site YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 8 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #4 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:38pm
	site wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 2:36pm: JonB wrote on Feb 4^th, 2012 at 1:51pm: Hi site - Question - are you saying A. - you are unable to login as 'admin'? or B. - Are you saying you able to login as admin, but you cannot access the Admin Center in YaBB? If B - You may need to use this fix: (second on the page) http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?num=1198940158/0#2 If need be - read this post on the issues of 2.3.1 to 2.5: http://www.yabbforum.com/community/YaBB.pl?num=1282541343 Good Luck Hello again. I can login as administrator. The Admin menu item didnt showup after login, so I edited the Settings.pl adding a suggestion given in another posting. Then the Admin came back. Im not able to reach the Admin panel. The message still shows up as in my initial posting. I will read your links. Thank You I still cant find the edit-button read:Im not able to reach the Admin Center...


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site YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 8 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #5 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 3:21pm
	hi. I dont have the programs mentioned in suggested link of fix suggestions. I tried delete cache and cookies without success. Now Ill try the session variable change Link to the problem: http://home.broadpark.no/~jeik2/bilder/test1.jpg


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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #6 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 5:23pm
	I looked at the screenshot you posted. I'm not sure your upgrade went as planned. Is that screenshot 'supposed' to be an upgtraded forum??? Ijust visited it... What concerns me a bit is the logo, and the icons - they aren't from the YaBB 2.5 download... If you want you can PM me with either teh admin PW, and/or the FTP access info and I will take a look at it for you.
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	I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #7 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 7:01pm
	Its quite likely there is something wrong with your upgrade. I have sent you an e-mail as well

	I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #8 - Feb 4^th, 2012 at 7:12pm
	OKAY - I think we have this sorted out Did you do a one-click install and then try to update an empty forum??? Because the forum is totally empty AND it shows teh admin as joining in 2009. Good Luck

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warpo YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 3 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #9 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 1:57am
	Hi sorry to be a pain, but am unsure if I have upgraded my forum or not. In my Admin Center I get this: Quote: Version Information YOUR version: YaBB 2.3.1 Latest STABLE version: YaBB 2.5 AE Latest BETA version: none Latest ALPHA version: YaBB Next Edition There is a stable version available! If you would like to download YaBB 2.5 AE, please go to . I downloaded the YaBB 2.5 AE upgrade file and followed instructions. Went through the CHMODs etc etc. When finished and I click save, my version information doesn't change, it still displays what it says in the above quote box. I say i'm unsure if i've upgraded because I recieve no error when I clicked save.. Would be nice if I could delete all the yabb files completely, replace them with the new version, but I don't want to lose all my members, posts etc etc. Any help would be very appreciated.


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Dandello Da WebKitty YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 3,548 Location: Earth YaBB 2.6.1	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #10 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 5:29am
	Warpo - when you go to Detailed Version Check (under admin) what do the files there say? If the upgrade was successful the Detailed Versions in that list will show you have YaBB 2.5 files. If that's true, then the culprit is a file in Variables (I think) that didn't get updated properly.
	« Last Edit: Feb 13^th, 2012 at 5:32am by Dandello »
	If you only have one solution to a problem you're not trying hard enough!
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warpo YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 3 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #11 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 10:29am
	I'm really confused now.... Everything says 2.3.1. I spent over half an hour making sure all the chmods were correct. Been trying to think what my problem is and i'm wondering. Quote: YaBB_2_5_upgrade_all = 2 folders (cgi-bin & public_html) YaBB_2_5_upgrade_from_2_3_x = 2 folders (cgi-bin & public_html) I may have put the files in the wrong place, but im not sure. In my ULTIMATE ROOT where my public_html folder is I didn't place the cgi-bin folder. Instead I placed the cgi-bin folder here: /public_html/cgi-bin Should it be in the ultimate root? /cgi-bin I installed yabb in /public_html/yabb So this is how I uploaded the files: I uploaded the cgi-bin folder in the public_html root: /public_html/cgi-bin/ /public_html/yabb/ When I first tried an update and failed I placed the yabbfiles as it is in the download: /public_html/yabb/yabbfiles/ I did that a couple of weeks ago, and failed to upgrade. Now the stable version 2.5 is out, I thought I would give it a go again. The files inside yabbfiles I placed inside the yabb directory. /public_html/yabb/ As you can see I messed it up slightly and would appreciate any help tidying these files up. Is it possible to just delete the yabb folder, recreate it with the new files and keep members and their posts and all info? As I said before, so sorry to be a pain.


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Dandello Da WebKitty YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 3,548 Location: Earth YaBB 2.6.1	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #12 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:23pm
	One: back up your old forum and put the backup in a safe place - like download it. Two - find your existing forum files (a look at Paths.pl through your admin center will tell you a lot.) On an average Linux server set up, the cgi-bin will be in the public_html folder - but not always. (and apparently your set-up is one of the different ones.) Three: The new install goes on top of your old one - the new stuff in yabbfiles goes in the pre-existing yabbfiles folder, rewriting the old files. New Sources goes in the old Sources folder. (probably at cgi-bin/yabb2/Sources) rewriting the old files. Ditto for Admin, Modules, Variables, Languages, and Templates (don't replace Templates if you've done a lot of modification on them). Do the same with yabb2/Admin.pl and yabb2/YaBB.pl DO NOT replace anything in Messages, Members, or Boards Be prepared to reset all your variables, go through the maintenance routines - rebuild member list, messages, etc. In the event you go for a complete virgin install of 2.5 - the material in Messages, Members, and Boards is the stuff you need to move back into your new install.
	« Last Edit: Feb 13^th, 2012 at 3:28pm by Dandello »
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warpo YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 3 YaBB 2.6.0	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #13 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 7:37pm
	Its all too confusing for me... so I deleted everything, did a new install, and put back the three folders.... all great running updated. thank you very much and sorry to have bothered you


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Bill Myers God Member Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,866 Location: Los Angeles YaBB 2.4	Re: 2.3.1 to 2.5 questions Reply #14 - Feb 13^th, 2012 at 9:01pm
	warpo wrote on Feb 13^th, 2012 at 7:37pm: Its all too confusing for me... I can definitely empathize with the confusion even though I'm relatively savvy about computers. On a scale between 1-10 with 10 being the most knowledgeable, I'm probably a 5. Being average as I am about this stuff, that's been one of my biggest frustrations with YaBB or any other forum for that matter. In practice, only those of you who have the smarts to manage this kind of stuff will be able to install, upgrade, and fine tune a forum. For the majority of people, I'm sure, we end up going to Facebook, and chatting things up that way. Wish list: Provide an installation package that is a click and use forum if that's even possible. Or at least provide very user friendly step-by-step instructions to help the average person install, and maintain YaBB. Otherwise, for the most part, forum software will only be popular with geeks who have the smarts to figure all of this stuff out. On a non-geek related note, if I remember correctly when I updated our YaBB 1.4 forum to YaBB 2.4 as we have it today, I believe I made a fresh/virgin install in a folder named YaBB2 versus our YaBB folder. When that worked without a problem, believe it or not, in one quick move I simply changed the folder's name on the server from YaBB2 to YaBB after renaming the original folder to YaBB-old, and BAM; I was magically using our YaBB 2.4 forum. I know; very unconventional, but it worked. Disclaimer: If any of you do what I did, it'll be at your own risk.

	Morning, noon, or night, have a great one! Note: Like most others, this forum doesn't allow us to freely edit our posts or topics to make corrections as needed, so please remember to look for subsequent posts if you see any mistakes or outdated information. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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