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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #40 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 6:36am
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SMF has an option in the admin centre which allows a standard menu system in the admin centre.

Basically a little arrow that you click and it changes the layout.
  

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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #39 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 2:35am
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I don't want to switch either. I hate change!  Smiley

Evidently, SMF has a conversion package for YaBB, and it's pretty clear that many webmasters have switched to that forum.

Like you, I prefer YaBB, so I really only thought about switching when a few months ago it appeared that YaBB had ceased to exist. This forum was down for about 11 days I think.

As I understand it, Corey wasn't aware that this forum had gone down because he was busy with other work. Plus, he seemed to be about ready to quit on YaBB, and without him, this forum, and its software probably wouldn't be around for the public to use.

But as I mentioned before, SMF is really an offshoot of YaBB anyway, so there is that option if Corey ever decides to shutter YaBB altogether.
  

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Reply #38 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 2:17am
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Bill Myers wrote on Apr 29th, 2012 at 1:56am:
but I agree with you that the SMF Admin area is not as easy to navigate as YaBB is

Well, I found out that being on a iPhone like I was earlier makes it even harder to navigate since some links do not work because of the drop down links that they have.

I just dont know. Im so used to YaBB and the features now that it would be hard to switch. Then there is the task of converting boards and each post. I've seen post around the net that it can be a pain to do.
  
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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #37 - Apr 29th, 2012 at 1:56am
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Maybe I'm biased in YaBB's favor, but I agree with you that the SMF Admin area is not as easy to navigate as YaBB is. On the other hand, SMF makes it very easy to install mods, and there are tons of mods available for use. It's all in one package that doesn't require membership in two different sites.

You just go to Admin/Package Manager. Then you just pick the mod you want, and click Install.

Keep in mind that SMF is really a beefed up version of YaBB. Roll Eyes Flattery can be nice.  Wink

Personally, I think that YaBB is so much easier to incorporate into a website than SMF is, i.e., with relative ease if you know HTML, you can marry YaBB and your site much more compatibly.

Of course, it finally dawned on me that SMF can easily be put into an iFrame, and be part of any site quite nicely.

Unfortunately, until I teach myself how to install YaBB properly again ... darn you 500 error ... I'm not capable of installing YaBB for any other domain.

Meanwhile, SMF allows me to very quickly put up a forum with its self-installation, so I suspect that I'll be using both YaBB and SMF at the same time, albeit for different domains.


Disclaimer: I do not have experience with BoardMod, but as I understand it, mods are very easy to install once you learn how to go through the process. Unfortunately, unless I somehow missed it, there aren't any 1-2-3 instructions to show how it's done.

I suspect that using BoardMod is just as easy if not easier than SMF once you get the hang of it.  Wink


YaBB Wish List:

1. Create a self-installation package like SMF.

2. Incorporate this forum and BoardMod so that it's virtually one and the same. That seems to be how SMF does it; separate entities concentrating on what they do best, but working through one central non-profit entity.

3. Rather than release new versions of YaBB, release updates to YaBB's software so that an admin can easily upgrade their forum.

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Edited to correct a typo ... again.  Roll Eyes
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Reply #36 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 9:20pm
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Aww... Heck, I wasn't going to say the name but I still had a copy of the forum that I think you are talking about installed and just got thru trying to navigate the admin center again. I can't find a thing in there. The SMF admin center is not very user friendly from what I have seen. I would much rather spend a little time adding a mod to YaBB versus having to cripple myself trying to navigate something that I would need to use often.

It annoyed me so much this time, I won't have to worry about it making my blood pressure rise again.... It's deleted!
  
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Reply #35 - Apr 28th, 2012 at 3:11pm
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By the way, mods are already built into that other forum versus us having to go through BoardMod while using YaBB.

Evidently, that other forum pretty much started off as a YaBB project, but developers split off to do their own thing with it.

Interesting. It's pretty much another version of YaBB, but with all the bells and whistles that this forum is trying to put together.

Preferring YaBB myself just because I'm so used to it, I'm hoping developers in this forum will get up to speed on putting everything in one place, and again, maybe a future version will enable what amounts to self-installation.

Then YaBB could really really cook!  Cheesy

  

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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #34 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 11:37pm
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As much as I know about YaBB, simply because I've been using it since 2002, there is so much more that I don't know.

Sadly, I'm not alone.  Sad

From what I've seen, particularly with the the installation of YaBB, I think it's pretty obvious that it's very user unfriendly. It doesn't need to be that way.

Ironically, simply because I once again got that dreaded 500 error when trying to do a fresh install, I checked to see if other forum software had an easier installation process.

To my pleasant surprise, I very quickly found forum software that pretty much does the installation process itself. It will CHMOD the files for you, too, which of course is needed to get past that dreaded 500 error.

Hopefully, YaBB will implement what amounts to self-installation for its forum.
Within minutes I had a new forum installed, and ready for use. Wow!  Smiley
  

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Reply #33 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 10:35pm
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The only thing that might slow me up is mods. I worked so long to get them on there and like all of them. By upgrading, I lose them. Some are built into YaBB3 but some aren't. The main one is the anti spam question mod. It has helped so much on stopping spam to my forum that I don't want to be without it. Maybe it could be considered for future versions of YaBB.
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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #32 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 4:41pm
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I think you might be right about using a database. If this is the direction that YaBB is headed, then this would be good news if it helps to stabilize a large forum.

This kind of stuff is over my head, and above my pay grade.  Roll Eyes
  

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Reply #31 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 4:35pm
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Once I feel comfortable with the progress of yabb3, I intend to move all of the old forum to the new one. I then will use htaccess to redirect the yabb2 folder to he yabb3 folder keeping the rest of the URL intact.

I only set up this forum to get used to it and play with the template. I'm not going to allow any registrations at this time for the simple reason, I don't want to have to worry about combatting spammers in a non active forum.

As far as size and stability, I am under the impression that the implementation of the database would solve this problem.

Someone please correct me if I'm assuming wrong.
  
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Reply #30 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 3:34pm
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Very cool.  Smiley

For me personally, I find your installation of the beta version of YaBB to be very encouraging. I'm curious about how it progresses.

I see that members of your old and current forum can switch over to your new forum with a link that you've provided. Does this mean you intend to keep your old forum as it is by maybe archiving it when your new forum is ready for the transition? Or are you simply going to move your messages over with your membership base as well?

I'm curious about this because at some point I'll most probably want to upgrade to YaBB's newest version when it's ready with a stable version. However, in my case, I may want to archive our current forum so that all the links can remain workable from the pages of our main site.

A simple upgrade versus a new install would allow me to keep our forum's address, but upgrading a forum isn't an easy task.

Besides, as I understand it, YaBB becomes unstable once it gets to a certain size. If that's still true, then archiving older posts would make sense.  Archiving the forum would also keep intact the older posts, which are referenced throughout the main pages of our site.

Good luck with the fresh install of your new forum.  Smiley
  

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Reply #29 - Apr 27th, 2012 at 2:35pm
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Went ahead and got a jump start on playing with the template for yabb3. I found out it wasn't as simple as placing a copy of my the camo.css into the new forum cause some things have changed. Anyhow, I started from scratch with the template and am pretty close.

Next step, see how my boards and other things transfer over.

new test forum
  
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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #28 - Mar 31st, 2012 at 12:56am
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I remember 1.4. Still a lot of mods I miss from that version, though I wouldn't want to lose the improvements since then to get them back.
  
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Reply #27 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 1:35pm
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WestwegoMan wrote on Mar 28th, 2012 at 8:31am:
Ok. I went ahead and transfered the entries to the new guest book. It actually wasn't that bad. Thanks for that suggestion.

I guess I just had to take on the challenge. Smiley

Great. I thought you'd find it easy. Smiley
  
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Re: Segnette.com fishing forum
Reply #26 - Mar 28th, 2012 at 10:10am
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Yeah, you're still missing a few email addresses with that transfer. Websites, too.

I see that you took out that 2nd guestbook link in the menu on your main site. It previously went to a page that gave a 404 error. But it's fixed now.  Wink
  

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