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Reply #6 - May 17th, 2012 at 4:31am
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Bill Myers wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 2:29am:
As things are now, and as they've been for a while, our forum continues to have Open registration without approvals; not even an email validation is needed.

I had been using pre-registration with email activation.Going to try Open registration without approvals since I have the mods installed. I'll see how that goes. I think it will work out well but, like most things web related, only time will tell.
  
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Reply #5 - May 17th, 2012 at 3:19am
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I guess you could say that SpamFruits is a great feeture on your site, Bill. Wink
  
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Reply #4 - May 17th, 2012 at 2:29am
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WestwegoMan wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 2:06am:
Spam bots had me frustrated to the point that I wanted to give up.

I had the same problem with spam-bots. In fact, I was just about ready to shutter our forum because of it a couple of years ago.

Many YaBB forums have been shuttered because of spam.

Instead, I updated to V2.4 and started requiring admin approval for registrations.

That worked for a while, but at some point I was getting too many spam-bot registrations, which of course I denied.

I next implemented a CAPTCHA modification that stopped every single spam-bot cold.

Finally, I installed BoardMod and learned how to use it, so I installed the anti-spam mods I mentioned.

While I guess it's kind of fun to mess around with the requirements of registration, playing around with it for the sake of having fun with mods is a disservice to registrants, and it's an unnecessary irritation for them.

I'm all about inclusion versus exclusion, so as long as spamfruits is working, that's the only hoop I'm going to make people jump through.

As things are now, and as they've been for a while, our forum continues to have Open registration without approvals; not even an email validation is needed.

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Update: Our Open registration without approvals experiment is going along fine enough except that, to my disappointment, as of this edit a hu-bot registered to spam our forum. Luckily I was around to deal with it, but it did happen. I haven't changed anything because of this, not just yet, but I'm at the ready to add a question or two in the registration process if it's needed.

However this works out, I'm very grateful for the anti-spam mods that YaBB has available to utilize.

So to both Carsten and to Derek, my hat is off to you. Smiley

I'm trying to have the same attitude about spam-bots that JonB has; he just won't let them get to him even when they get through from time to time.

On our site so far, no spam posts have been made. But I just know that it's probably only a matter of time before it happens.

I just have to hold my tongue, and not nuke the forum because of it.  Roll Eyes

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Reply #3 - May 17th, 2012 at 2:06am
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Bill Myers wrote on May 17th, 2012 at 1:56am:
I'm still keeping my fingers crossed with Carsten's Spamfruits, but so far, so good.

Both mods are very affective. I have both installed and use both. I think I went with both just for added protection. Spam bots had me frustrated to the point that I wanted to give up. Thankfully, those mods came to the rescue and not one bot has been able to get by. Smiley

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Reply #2 - May 17th, 2012 at 1:56am
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A. /cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

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B. Because YaBB.pl is accessed publicly, being in a cgi-bin directory does nothing to stop bots. It really doesn't matter where it is. A cgi-bin directory is old hat thinking, and no longer effective.

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Because YaBB.pl is accessed publicly, being in a cgi-bin directory does nothing to stop bots. It really doesn't matter where it is. A cgi-bin directory is old hat thinking, and no longer effective.

Actually Bill - on many hosted Apache Servers - cgi-bin (or a folder below it) are the ONLY place YaBB will run without a custom configuration.

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The above is only a partial quote. You're encouraged to click JonB's full quotation for a more accurate, and thorough explanation.

C. YaBB could be any executable, and it wouldn't make a difference. However, because all YaBB forums have YaBB.pl as it's name, bots can find them very easily. Still, many more forums are in a public /forum/ directory, and those are also easy to find.

D. Attempted X-rumer type bot registrations are more than ever, and will continue to grow in some form or another. However, spam-bots can be stopped cold very easily with any 1 of 2 mods made for YaBB, or with a simple manual modification of CAPTCHA.

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Regarding spam-bots, using a CAPTCHA validation image is no longer needed. Besides, it's no longer effective anyway, so why bother people with it when they register?

Thanks to Carsten's Spamfruits mod, I don't even bother people with anything but choosing 1 of 4 fruit images. It's actually a fun way to register, plus it's very pretty. I've even stopped making registrants answer a question.

I also have Derek's Anti-Spam Question mod installed, although it's currently disabled, but it's at the ready if it's needed. I only tested it for a couple of days, but his mod seems to be just as effective as Carsten's, and it's easy to modify once it's installed.

I'm still keeping my fingers crossed with Carsten's Spamfruits, but so far, so good.  Smiley

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Reply #1 - May 17th, 2012 at 1:10am
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Mine is now in the cgi directory. I'm not all that well experienced with it but would it actually make a difference to bots which folder it's installed in?

Pre 2.5ae, my installation wasn't in a cgi directory. I dont recall if it has made a difference or not. I know at one point, I was getting about 5 spammers registering per day. The anti-spam mods nipped that real quick.

Maybe I'll learn something here:)
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Just a question
May 16th, 2012 at 10:33pm
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Its a multiple ~

A. How many of you have your YaBB installed in 'cgi-bin\yabb2'?

B. How much help against 'bot' registrations do you think installing YaBB's 'cgi-bin' Perl executable in a non-standard directory (like it is here with URL/community/YaBB.pl) would be??

C. How much difference would it make if the executable wasn't YaBB.pl???

D. Have any of you noticed a fall-off in the number of X-rumer type bot registrations???

Thanks to all those who reply.
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« Last Edit: May 16th, 2012 at 10:36pm by JonB »  

I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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