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Re: Registration problem
Reply #30 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 7:00am
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It is the developers base forum and that is how it should remain for all to see.

I'm glad that Derek pointed this out, because in fact, this forum does actually operate as if it's a base forum for YaBB's developers. Huge mistake!

What this forum claims to be, and what it should be, is YaBB's Community Forum where support is given. In fact, as it's laid out for the public, it's just one of a number of sections that is part of the yabbforum.com site.

As I understand it, and certainly how it's presented to the public, YaBB's developers have test beds for YaBB's development, and Corey's even created special areas for development to occur.

Public perception is everything. Everything! So when the general public comes to this site, and to this forum in particular, they should only see a stable version of YaBB that is operating at its best.

Instead, what the public actually sees is a forum that isn't working properly. A forum that has a lot of bugs. A forum that gets spammed.

Seriously, is this any way to showcase YaBB?


Adding a little bit of levity here, if I've been in the wrong place for support since 2002, can somebody please point me in the right direction to get YaBB support?


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There have been some great inclusions in the base forum over the years and they have been greatly welcomed. If anti-spamming can be developed that is watertight then add it to the base for everyone

I agree.

As for installing anti-spam mods in this forum, or any other stable mods that developers have written for YaBB, until a newer stable version of YaBB is available, of course this forum should install whatever enables this forum to be better.

That's kind of the whole point of mods.  Wink

Ideally, however, as mods are written, and proven, and then made a part of YaBB's core functions, I'm hoping that future versions of YaBB will have simple updates that admins can easily install.

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Re: Registration problem
Reply #31 - Jul 8th, 2012 at 9:54am
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Bill Myers wrote on Jul 8th, 2012 at 7:00am:
I'm glad that Derek pointed this out, because in fact, this forum does actually operate as if it's a base forum for YaBB's developers. Huge mistake!

What this forum claims to be, and what it should be, is YaBB's Community Forum where support is given. In fact, as it's laid out for the public, it's just one of a number of sections that is part of the yabbforum.com site.

As I understand it, and certainly how it's presented to the public, YaBB's developers have test beds for YaBB's development, and Corey's even created special areas for development to occur.

Public perception is everything. Everything! So when the general public comes to this site, and to this forum in particular, they should only see a stable version of YaBB that is operating at its best.

Instead, what the public actually sees is a forum that isn't working properly. A forum that has a lot of bugs. A forum that gets spammed.

Seriously, is this any way to showcase YaBB?


It is easy sometimes to criticize. Remember YaBB is a free forum and relies in Perl Developers volunteering their time and efforts to keep it all running.  No one gets paid. Yes there are issues with this current version of YaBB to be resolved but but behind the scenes there are still developers beavering away while maintaining full time jobs an full time study. Unfortunately they are few and far between and even the Development Board, Boardmod and others are very quiet right now.

I have been a long time supporter of YaBB, for a long time provided support to the YaBB Community when there was little available.  I have installed dozens of forums for others.  It is a great community.

Please be patient, it will return to it's previous presence across the internet  Smiley

Sorry for the off topic matters but I am passionate about it.
  
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Re: YaBB's problems are actually easy to fix
Reply #32 - Jul 9th, 2012 at 8:50am
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Please be patient, it will return to it's previous presence across the internet  Smiley

Not necessarily. Or more accurately, YaBB's current state of affairs will not improve unless the one guy who can change this decides to do something about it.

Or if rumors are correct, other YaBBers reportedly developing newer versions of YaBB will give the public another forum option.

Either way, time will tell.

As for YaBB's development, that can wait. What's more important in terms of the public's perception is to fix what's not working.

I agree with others who have said that this forum should be using a stable version; not "YaBB's Next Edition" since it's clearly not ready for prime time.

Ironically, what can look like really big problems are actually small problems that can be easily, and quickly fixed.

One example is YaBB's codex not rendering properly on this page. As a reminder, all that's needed is to download the language icons onto the server, and properly link them. That's it.

Another problem? Spam-bots. Many of us already know this can easily be stopped with a stable version of YaBB.

Regarding problems that have been reported here in this forum; about this forum; are problems that have been presented many times, and for a long time now.

This is the most shameful thing of all, and particularly embarrassing for those of us who care about YaBB; that despite easy solutions to fix these reported problems, nothing has been done to solve them.

Every once in a while we'll be told that we've beaten this issue or that issue to death.

Ya' think?!  Roll Eyes

And yet, these issues that are beaten to death are still left unresolved? You've got to be kidding!

Keystone cops.  Smiley


But then I have to look in a mirror, and say the familiar quote, "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results."

  

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