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Dandello Da WebKitty YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 3,548 Location: Earth YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #15 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 7:05pm
	Those 3 modules are, in fact, optional in YaBB 2.x. If a mod needs one of them, it will have it listed. But any decent host that supports Perl should be willing to install those should you need them. VPS is an excellent middle ground between dedicated and 'regular' hosting. But as with everything, it depends on the hosting company.
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Ludek YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 19	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #16 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 8:10pm
	Hello to Everyone! Phew! I think I'm a little clearer - I'm not sure I'm clearer but I think I may be... Firstly the list of files I sent to the host came from the Yabb installation guide here: http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?num=1190660838 This guide doesn't mention any differences between the versions I don't think? On an associated subject the host has just written to say that my old board is still available so I can request that they just transfer the whole thing across and then I'll update from there - at least I know the one I had worked! Can I establish exactly what files I need for v2.5 and what permissions I need for them? Is this written somewhere? Is the download version of 2.5 complete then and the permissions for the remaining files as shown in the install guide? And to complete the installation just set the correct permissions and hey presto? Is that whole list of 'missing' files redundant? And therefore the site should work without them? I would like to be absolutely clear about this as I'm relaying this to not very helpful people who are already mentally stretched by the whole exercise! Thanks again to everyone who has taken the trouble to respond. Ludek


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depablo YaBB Moderators YaBB Next Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 577 Location: UK None	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #17 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 9:42pm
	Personally I would reinstall your old forum using your hosts backup. Then install latest version and follow the upgrade instructions in the 2.5 quick start guide. Or PM xnoddyx to do it for you, he's a very helpful chap

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xnoddyx Support Team Documentation Team YaBB Moderators YaBB Next Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,596 Location: UK:Scotland/livingston None	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #18 - Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:37pm
	Ludek wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 8:10pm: Firstly the list of files I sent to the host came from the Yabb installation guide here: http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?num=1190660838 Edited: Ludek wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 8:10pm: Can I establish exactly what files I need for v2.5 and what permissions I need for them? Is this written somewhere? all files in the YaBB 2.5 download is all you need and for Upgrading see here http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?board=upgrade this is a general dir and file chmod list that has the chmod for most yabbs 1.x 2.x but not all. so for 2.5 will look like this KEY *.=all dirs/files .help= all files ending with .help and so forth i.e. .pl cgi-bin/yabb2 drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/AdminIndex.pl -rwxr-xr-x (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Setup.pl drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Paths.pl drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Admin drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Boards drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Boards/.* -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/Admin drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/Admin/.help -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/Gmod drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/Gmod/.help -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/Moderator drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/Moderator/.help -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/User drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Help/English/User/.help -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Languages drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Languages/English drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Languages/English/.txt -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Languages/English/.lng -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/admin.* -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.ims -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.log -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.passes -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.msg -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.rlog -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.ttl -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.txt -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Members/.vars -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Messages drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Messages/.ctb -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Messages/.txt -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) NOT IN THE general dir and file chmod list but in YaBB 2.5 cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/ drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Tar.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Tar drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Tar/Constant.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Tar/File.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/Archive.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/BufferedFileHandle.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/DirectoryMember.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/FAQ.pod drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/FileMember.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/Member.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/MemberRead.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/MockFileHandle.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/NewFileMember.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/StringMember.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/Tree.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Archive/Zip/ZipFileMember.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Digest/HMAC.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Digest/HMAC_MD5.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Email/ drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Email/Date/ drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/Email/Date/Format.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/MIME/ drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Modules/MIME/Lite.pm drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) ----------------------- cgi-bin/yabb2/Sources drwxr-xr-x (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Sources/.pl -rwxr-xr-x (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Templates drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Templates/default drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Templates/default/.* -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) cgi-bin/yabb2/Variables drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) cgi-bin/yabb2/Variables/*.* -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) Templates must be o+x so that YaBB can read the files inside. Variables must be o+wx because this is where variables are to be created. public_html Files The following files in your public_html directory need to have their permissions altered. Please note that this list does not include files for which no change is needed. yabbfiles/ all .js -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) yabbfiles/mediaplayer.swf -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) yabbfiles/Attachments drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/Buttons/English drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/Buttons/English/.* drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/shjs drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/shjs/*.* -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) yabbfiles/shjs/styles drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/shjs/styles/sh_style.css -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) yabbfiles/smilies drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/smilies/*.* drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/Templates/Admin/default.css -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) yabbfiles/Templates/Forum drwxrwxrwx (chmod 755) yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default.css -rw-rw-rw- (chmod 666) hope this is of more help to you and think i got most of it depablo wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 9:42pm: Or PM xnoddyx to do it for you, he's a very helpful chap thanks depablo your not so bad yourself
	« Last Edit: Jul 14^th, 2012 at 10:43pm by xnoddyx »
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Derek Bullock Ex Member	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #19 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 12:37am
	Ludek wrote on Jul 14^th, 2012 at 8:10pm: Hello to Everyone! Phew! I think I'm a little clearer - I'm not sure I'm clearer but I think I may be... Firstly the list of files I sent to the host came from the Yabb installation guide here: http://www.yabbforum.com/codex/YaBB.pl?num=1190660838 Delete it from your computer and ignore it This guide doesn't mention any differences between the versions I don't think? As above On an associated subject the host has just written to say that my old board is still available so I can request that they just transfer the whole thing across and then I'll update from there - at least I know the one I had worked! With your and your hosts lack of understanding of YaBB this may be a good idea Can I establish exactly what files I need for v2.5 and what permissions I need for them? Is this written somewhere? Yes, this is written in the Quick Guide which is in the download from YaBB that you should have as you stated in your first post you uploaded the files. If not download it here - http://www.yabbforum.com/downloads.php #### Note below Is the download version of 2.5 complete then and the permissions for the remaining files as shown in the install guide? Yes And to complete the installation just set the correct permissions and hey presto? Yes Is that whole list of 'missing' files redundant? Yes And therefore the site should work without them? On most hosts, yes I would like to be absolutely clear about this as I'm relaying this to not very helpful people who are already mentally stretched by the whole exercise! Thanks again to everyone who has taken the trouble to respond. Ludek #### Note: If you haven't already, download YaBB 2.5 as mentioned above. Unzip the package to your computer. When you do so you will have a structure like this: cgi-bin public_html Quick-Guide README VERSION Open the folder Quick-Guide. When it opens you will have a structure like this: English images Quick-Guide style Open Quick-Guide (this will open in your browser). Click on English and it will open the whole installation instructions. I would suggest you read the whole thing to familiarize yourself with it. Of course the important section for you is Step 3 CHMOD. In there you will find all that you need to send to your host in regards what files are in YaBB 2.5 and the required permissions. It is completely accurate so don't question it. You can copy and paste it into an email for your host. Once again however a host who will not let you set your own permissions could always be a problem for you. If financially you can I would cut your losses and get out. Find a host with Linux or Unix and who uses CPanel and will support YaBB and sign up. (CPanel can make it easier to manage your site) Send me your FTP details in a PM and I will install you a brand new working YaBB Forum. Then you can play with it. Cheers Derek


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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #20 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 3:09pm
	I'd like to clarify a couple things - and this is to the extent of my knowledge only: IF Perl is working correctly, even at a very basic level - you can add Perl modules (.pm) files to your ./Modules folder - and they should work. A few things should be noted and explained. A. This is possible because the include path is extended when YaBB.pl is loaded. B. Some Perl Modules have their own 'support' folders. This is to resolve dependencies (other code the new module requires). These have to be uploaded as well. C. Permissions - 1. Linux/Unix/Mac hosts - The permissions should be 'at least' 755 - that is the 'owner' of the files and any members of the primary 'group' the owner belongs to can 'execute' the files (they are a special kind of Perl script in fact). 2. IIS - use the same permissions as set for ./Sources The Perl version currently required AFAIK is Perl 5.8+ (anyone feel free to ocrrect me). I personally know of YaBB Forums on Perl 5.6, but they are older versions, and I don't know all the dependencies. Perl Modules are different from PHP extensions, and are generally much less version dependent. Good Luck to all
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Dandello Da WebKitty YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 3,548 Location: Earth YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #21 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 3:28pm
	When loading new Perl modules into ./Modules - note that the new modules have their own sub-folders. Time::Hi-res will actually be .Modules/Time/Hi-res.pm But I'm still seriously bothered that CGI.pm is not being found as an installed Perl module and the hosting service is unwilling or unable to add it.

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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #22 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 3:38pm
	CGI.pm is indeed critical to YaBB (and most Perl scripts). User Avatars and Attachment uploads won't work in YaBB without it, AFAIK. In the back of my itty-bitty brain a chorus is quietly warming up for a version of 'O Where o where have my tempfiles gone??". Be Cool -

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xnoddyx Support Team Documentation Team YaBB Moderators YaBB Next Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,596 Location: UK:Scotland/livingston None	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #23 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 4:27pm
	Dandello wrote on Jul 15^th, 2012 at 3:28pm: But I'm still seriously bothered that CGI.pm is not being found as an installed Perl module and the hosting service is unwilling or unable to add it. this reminds me of some free hosts. JonB wrote on Jul 15^th, 2012 at 3:38pm: In the back of my itty-bitty brain a chorus is quietly warming up for a version of 'O Where o where have my tempfiles gone??". Be Cool - oh no thats never good lol

	YaBB install help video 1. what yabb forum are you running and the url 2. describe in as much detail as you can what happens and also post screenshots if you can 3. please be patient we live in different time zones and have other commitments but we will help you as bill and ted say (Be excellent to each other)
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Ludek YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 19	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #24 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm
	Hello Everyone, Wow! Well, to precis what I've done following all this wonderful assistance is: I've basically started again. I've deleted everything I've done so far. I've reinstalled making doubly sure I've used the correct ASCII/Binary uploading options where appropriate. I've sent the Support [sic] department the list of permissions as included in the Quick Start Guide. I have also, as an extra technical feature, crossed all of my fingers and as many toes as I can manage! Hang on to your hats and let's see what comes next! Thank you all again for this marvellous assistance, I am really most grateful. And to reassure everyone this isn't going to be an annual exercise I have diarised the end of the hosting contract for next year so I can find myself another (proper) host in good time! Regards, Ludek


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xnoddyx Support Team Documentation Team YaBB Moderators YaBB Next Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,596 Location: UK:Scotland/livingston None	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #25 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 10:05pm
	Ludek wrote on Jul 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm: Hello Everyone, Wow! Well, to precis what I've done following all this wonderful assistance is: I've basically started again. I've deleted everything I've done so far. I've reinstalled making doubly sure I've used the correct ASCII/Binary uploading options where appropriate. I've sent the Support [sic] department the list of permissions as included in the Quick Start Guide. I have also, as an extra technical feature, crossed all of my fingers and as many toes as I can manage! Hang on to your hats and let's see what comes next! Thank you all again for this marvellous assistance, I am really most grateful. And to reassure everyone this isn't going to be an annual exercise I have diarised the end of the hosting contract for next year so I can find myself another (proper) host in good time! Regards, Ludek Quote: crossed all of my fingers and as many toes as I can manage! wow i can only do my fingers lol and thanks all we hope for is that you have a working forum at the end

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Derek Bullock Ex Member	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #26 - Jul 15^th, 2012 at 11:09pm
	Ludek wrote on Jul 15^th, 2012 at 9:14pm: Hello Everyone, Wow! Well, to precis what I've done following all this wonderful assistance is: I've basically started again. I've deleted everything I've done so far. I've reinstalled making doubly sure I've used the correct ASCII/Binary uploading options where appropriate. I've sent the Support [sic] department the list of permissions as included in the Quick Start Guide. I have also, as an extra technical feature, crossed all of my fingers and as many toes as I can manage! Hang on to your hats and let's see what comes next! Thank you all again for this marvellous assistance, I am really most grateful. And to reassure everyone this isn't going to be an annual exercise I have diarised the end of the hosting contract for next year so I can find myself another (proper) host in good time! Regards, Ludek Well done, love your work


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Ludek YaBB Newcomer Offline Posts: 19	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #27 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:57pm
	Well, this painful (and so far fruitless) installation journey continues. It's been almost a month and we have arrived here http://www.britishanzani.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl They've so far had three attempts at getting these permissions correct and this is where we are. I suppose the first question I should ask is is this a problem created by me? Have I got something wrong in the installation? If someone could have a look and give me their opinion I'd be very grateful. I'm loathed to have any more conversations with Support than I have to - relations are a little strained at the moment. Thanks for your time, Ludek


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depablo YaBB Moderators YaBB Next Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 577 Location: UK None	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #28 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 8:20pm
	Ludek wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:57pm: They've so far had three attempts at getting these permissions correct and this is where we are. Can you not cut your losses and try a new host? Concerns: 1/ You will need a domain name from Easily.co.uk to use with your web hosting. 2/ Unable to change your own permissions. 3/ Unlimited Bandwidth. Can your current domain name be transferred to another registrar?

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Bill Myers God Member Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,866 Location: Los Angeles YaBB 2.4	Re: Missing files on upload Reply #29 - Aug 10^th, 2012 at 8:31pm
	If you're referring to how your forum isn't rendering properly ... Ludek wrote on Aug 10^th, 2012 at 7:57pm: I'm loathed to have any more conversations with Support than I have to - relations are a little strained at the moment. Sorry this has happened. I think the official support here is trying to do a better job. I'm trying to remain hopeful about it. They don't really like me butting in to help ... still ... I took a quick look at your forum, and got the formatting to render just fine. The quick answer is that the css files you're referencing are incorrect. You currently have the following lines: Code <link rel="stylesheet" href="/Templates/Forum/default.css" type="text/css" /> <link rel="stylesheet" href="/shjs/styles/sh_style.css" type="text/css" /> For the rendering to work properly in your forum, replace the two lines you see above with the following: Code <link rel="stylesheet" href="http://www.britishanzani.co.uk/yabbfiles/Templates/Forum/default1.css" type="text/css" /> How you need to do this properly is another question. Hopefully YaBB's official support will answer that for you. By the way, feel free to contact me directly if I get in trouble for trying to help online. At least with a rendering problem, I can more than likely help you to fix it. Good luck!

	Morning, noon, or night, have a great one! Note: Like most others, this forum doesn't allow us to freely edit our posts or topics to make corrections as needed, so please remember to look for subsequent posts if you see any mistakes or outdated information. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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