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Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:27am
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Bill Myers wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:15am:
Good news on that front as you can see below from the man himself.  

Corey Chapman wrote on Feb 7th, 2012 at 2:49pm:

This version has features such as sub boards, additional Ajax usage, an event calendar, popup post box displays, OpenID support, and partial MySQL implementation.  Basically much of what YaBB users have been asking for over the past several years - it's a reality.


I read that also a while back but, I think that was for YaBB3.

I think "YaBB3" and "YaBB-Next" will be 2 different releases.

I saw somewhere, that "YaBB-Next" will be something like a 2.5.2. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

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On a different note, I just got warned that I have 3 more attempts and I will be banned as a spammer for speed posting.  Grin
Not sure why I got it, guess I hit "preview" too fast. Sad
Proof of YaBB's good security.
  
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Reply #16 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:42am
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Well, whatever the case may be, I don't think a new version of YaBB will be released anytime soon. I'm guessing the people helping to develop YaBB's next version will figure out a way to make it top notch.

Meanwhile, the stable versions work quite well as you know.  Wink

As for any of us getting too big for YaBB to handle our size, I think for the most part this isn't much of an issue. But obviously it has been for some. Still, I shouldn't be dismissive about it as it needs to be an important consideration.

  

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Reply #17 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:48am
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Bill Myers wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:42am:
I'm guessing the people helping to develop YaBB's next version will figure out a way to make it top notch.

I totally agree. Don't get me wrong. I'm not nocking anything or anyone. Just curious and was thinking aloud.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 2:26am
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WestwegoMan wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 1:27am:
I think "YaBB3" and "YaBB-Next" will be 2 different releases.I saw somewhere, that "YaBB-Next" will be something like a 2.5.2. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.--------------------------------On a different note, I just got warned that I have 3 more attempts and I will be banned as a spammer for speed posting.  Not sure why I got it, guess I hit "preview" too fast. Proof of YaBB's good security.
           

if it works out the way we all want it to it will be 2.6 and the code will be cleaner thanks to Dandello  Grin as for YaBB 3 i cant speek on it apart from its still Beta  Sad
  

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Reply #19 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 6:28am
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As much as everyone wants to see an SQL version of YaBB, getting a good, stable, spam-resistant, flat-file version out there for people to use has to be a priority. 

The one thing that most people seem to fail to realize is that moving to an SQL/mySQL type data architecture isn't a matter of simply putting the data structures that already exist into tables for mySQL. The entirety of how the data is organized has to be optimized to work well in this new environment. And that will take time and serious thought to implement.

For instance, the member information is spread over several files - the variables, personal messages, login info. How should that be organized - each member gets a table with everything stored in it? One table with all the information from all the vars files in one place? What is the best way of doing this?

This is just one instance - then we have the board structures, the messages themselves... and what about the language files?
  

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Reply #20 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 6:50am
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Dandello wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 6:28am:
As much as everyone wants to see an SQL version of YaBB, getting a good, stable, spam-resistant, flat-file version out there for people to use has to be a priority.

To a point, I'm in agreement with that. However ...

what's the rush to get out a new flat file version? Wouldn't it make more sense to simply clean up the current stable 2.5AE verison, and let that be what everyone uses?

If in fact a MySQL version of YaBB is the way to go, why not simply take the time to develop it even if that means it will be a while?

Let's not forget that a YaBB version using MySQL is already out there in the name of SMF, so we end users know it can be done. They borrowed from us. Maybe it's time we borrow from them. We just need to enlist the help of people who know how to program MySQL databases.

Open source people. Open source.  Smiley

I'm reminded of a reviewer of forums that gave high marks to a forum software developer for taking their time developing new versions, and only releasing them when they were truly stable. That versus releasing new versions simply because people expect it, i.e., releasing new versions that are buggy.

So please, I urge YaBB to do it right rather than rush to release a new version simply because it's been a while since the last stable version was released.

Ironically, I stayed with YaBB 2.4 because of "problems" with version 2.5AE that were widely reported. Perhaps this latest verion's bugs have been fixed, and is better than the version I use, which I might add probably has its own bugs that have never been fixed (although our forum seems to run just fine).

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Reply #21 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 6:57am
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xnoddyx wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 2:26am:
if it works out the way we all want it to it will be 2.6 and the code will be cleaner thanks to Dandello   Grin

I support that; very sensibleSmiley

As for future versions with MySQL; whatever; let's not rush it.  Wink

  

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Reply #22 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 3:27pm
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Bill Myers wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 6:50am:
what's the rush to get out a new flat file version? Wouldn't it make more sense to simply clean up the current stable 2.5AE verison, and let that be what everyone uses?


That's step 1. And the sooner we get a bug-fixed version of 2.5 out there, the better off YaBB will be.
  

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Reply #23 - Jul 26th, 2012 at 8:38pm
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Dandello wrote on Jul 26th, 2012 at 3:27pm:
... the sooner we get a bug-fixed version of 2.5 out there, the better off YaBB will be.

That's been my thinking as well.  Smiley

Not to downplay all the bells and whistles of other forums that have basically copied the way YaBB operates, but I've installed a YaBB-inspired forum to test it out, and while there are many things to like about it, I find that YaBB is still my preference for a number of reasons that are important to me.

I've very happily been using YaBB for over 10 years now, and even though I'll moan and groan about this and that, I guess because I'm a perfectionist, the bottom line is that I've nonetheless always been more than satisfied with YaBB.

Smiley The skinny is that YaBB is simply a really great forum. Smiley

  

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