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Re: OK - I 'thought' I knew this, but I have worked w/ a lot of stuff
Reply #5 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 4:24pm
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YES! - I just have to test now,,,

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Re: OK - I 'thought' I knew this, but I have worked w/ a lot of stuff
Reply #4 - Sep 12th, 2012 at 2:29pm
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In YaBB (Security Settings), the first option is:
Use Stealth URLs in hyperlinks? (leave no referrer)

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Re: OK - I 'thought' I knew this, but I have worked w/ a lot of stuff
Reply #3 - Sep 8th, 2012 at 10:53pm
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JonB wrote on Sep 8th, 2012 at 4:21am:
Does YaBBC

lol sorry been in need of some sleep you ment YaBBC.pl and not the .js dident you  Roll Eyes and  Cheesy@me
  

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Re: OK - I 'thought' I knew this, but I have worked w/ a lot of stuff
Reply #2 - Sep 8th, 2012 at 3:13pm
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De-referring removes/strips the 'referrer' information in the HTTP request header before passing it to a browser instance. There are two ways to do it: reformulate the request, or use a dereferring service (a proxy). There is a third way (I realize now) and that is to disable link parsing on the site, blog, board or forum (which means no hot-linking) - thus a fresh browser instance.  For obvious reasons, the last is a not-well liked option. It was tried briefly on a high traffic forum where I am a moderator. I think that lasted less than 10 days, whereupon hot-linking came back despite some problems. $Problems == 'spammers'; (just like here - its hard to look for links hidden/buried in posts).

Effectively, the target server can't obtain the 'where did that come from' info on the request. This has two effects I am aware of.

A. If you have a post with a link that points to a controversial or sensitive URL, your users can visit that site/page without anyone being aware of how they got there. De-referring anonymizes the site where the link was posted, but it doesn't provide anonymity for the user. The user just appears to have gone directly to that page. (as if you had a hand-written URL to work with).

B. It also helps kill SEO back-linking, which is dependent on link-chaining. Backlinking is an SEO business model.  De-referring does not stop it, it cripples the measurement (metrics).  Web-analytics depend, in part, on being able to identify the sources of inbound links. De-referring takes away a piece of that apparatus.  If you don't know where a request came from, you cannot assign a value to it, or its source.  SPAM propagators use this mechanism to pay their hu-bots and other non-human contractors.  

Its also called 'de-referencing' which, I think, is a misnomer.

I have seen it in two varieties - admin choice, and built into the UBBC code (which is why I asked about syntax).  I think its all mods and/or proprietary code.

Now I think I remember the #3 option exists in the Admin Center for YaBB.
OK -> Forum Settings > Posting: Auto-link URLs?
BUT I don't think that disables the URL tag.

blah, blah, blah  Grin

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Re: OK - I 'thought' I knew this, but I have worked w/ a lot of stuff
Reply #1 - Sep 8th, 2012 at 12:09pm
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JonB wrote on Sep 8th, 2012 at 4:21am:
de-referred URL's?

do you mean to HTTP response to the POST  Huh
if so i dont think it can from the look of things in it, it can rewrite urls and thats about it.
  

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Does YaBBC support de-referred URL's?  if so what is the syntax?

Thanks - and if no one knows what I mean, that's OK too - I may just be having a 'senior moment'.  Cheesy

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Edited:
I go look for a Mod perhaps?
« Last Edit: Sep 8th, 2012 at 4:27am by JonB »  

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