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Dandello Da WebKitty YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 3,584 Location: Earth YaBB 2.6.1	Name for the new moderator position Feb 27^th, 2013 at 3:10am
	2.5.4 has a new moderator position between Global Moderator and the regular 'assigned to a board' moderator position. The new position has moderator permissions throughout the forum and also has the ability to ban users. The position does not have access to the admin center or to the admin edit profile functions. But we need a name for it.

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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #1 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 10:50am
	Gee, I thought we had agreed on 'Forum Moderator' at some point???

	I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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Derek Barnstorm Support Team YaBB Next Team Development Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,269 Location: United Kingdom None	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #2 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 12:11pm
	I thought 'Forum Moderator' was good enough too - can't really see what else it can be...


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Elrick. Forum Moderator YaBB Moderators Beta Testers Offline Posts: 171 Location: Edge of the Abyss YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #3 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 1:45pm
	Forum Moderator would certainly fit. Some boards have also a Local Moderator with just slightly less prerogatives than Global Moderator.

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Derek Barnstorm Support Team YaBB Next Team Development Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,269 Location: United Kingdom None	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #4 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 1:57pm
	Elrick. wrote on Feb 27^th, 2013 at 1:45pm: Local Moderator I like that. It goes nicely with 'global' too.


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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #5 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 2:11pm
	LOL - the real problem is that the Global Moderator isn't a Moderator really in YaBB. This may be a U.S. only joke, but the mighty Global Moderator is really an 'Administrative Assistant'. I'm kinda opposed to 'Local' as it implies one locale or subset and that's what a Board Moderator or Moderator Group is (although it is mot a position). just my 2¢ thanks

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Bill Myers God Member Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,866 Location: Los Angeles YaBB 2.4	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #6 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 3:56pm
	How important is it to come up with a proper name for a new moderator position? After all, admins can change the names as desired. On a related note, I've noticed that other forums have the ability to hide the position of moderators, i.e., people aren't aware that these otherwise stealth moderators can moderate the forum. I know YaBB can enable stealth mode for Admins and Gmods, but that's different since their position is still listed. Hiding the position of moderators could be a useful feature, although it's bothersome for me personally because it's less transparent. In our forum when I've wanted to try it, I've hidden the status of moderators by having them use a separate account such as Aministrator 2 or Moderator 2, etc.

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Derek Barnstorm Support Team YaBB Next Team Development Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,269 Location: United Kingdom None	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #7 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 4:09pm
	Bill Myers wrote on Feb 27^th, 2013 at 3:56pm: On a related note, I've noticed that other forums have the ability to hide the position of moderators, i.e., people aren't aware that these otherwise stealth moderators can moderate the forum. I know YaBB can enable stealth mode for Admins and Gmods, but that's different since their position is still listed. Hiding the position of moderators could be a useful feature, although it's bothersome for me personally because it's less transparent. Edit Member Groups: Quote: Public If you uncheck this option, the stars, title and color of this Member Group are hidden, therefore they will look like regular users. NOTE: This does not apply to post-dependent groups, whose stars/title/colors cannot be hidden. Their name would still appear on the board index and message index, but that would be easy enough to remove from the template files. Edited: Or you could set up a new post-independent 'Moderator Group' with the above option unchecked. That way, their name wouldn't be displayed on the board index and message index.
	« Last Edit: Feb 27^th, 2013 at 4:19pm by Derek Barnstorm »

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Bill Myers God Member Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,866 Location: Los Angeles YaBB 2.4	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #8 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 5:19pm
	Derek, thanks for the tips. I appreciate them.

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xnoddyx Support Team Documentation Team YaBB Moderators YaBB Next Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,596 Location: UK:Scotland/livingston None	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #9 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 5:29pm
	Bill Myers wrote on Feb 27^th, 2013 at 3:56pm: How important is it to come up with a proper name for a new moderator position? After all, admins can change the names as desired. it is very important as it is needed for documentation and the default name is also needed for translation as well. i think Forum Moderator as it does what it says on the tin Forum Moderator moderates the whole forum just what i think.

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Dandello Da WebKitty YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 3,584 Location: Earth YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #10 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 5:49pm
	JonB wrote on Feb 27^th, 2013 at 10:50am: Gee, I thought we had agreed on 'Forum Moderator' at some point??? Huh And then things got lost in translation (into German). I'm tending toward the idea of renaming Global Moderator to Admin Assistant. Then the new moderator position can be Global Moderator or Forum Moderator.
	« Last Edit: Feb 27^th, 2013 at 5:52pm by Dandello »
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Bill Myers God Member Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,866 Location: Los Angeles YaBB 2.4	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #11 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 6:53pm
	xnoddyx wrote on Feb 27^th, 2013 at 5:29pm: it is very important as it is needed for documentation and the default name is also needed for translation as well. Good point. Of course default names are needed, and so they will be determined by YaBB's team. On that note, this discussion illustrates how people think differently about assigning names. Even among this small group there is more than one opinion. That is why I would love to see the continuing ability through the Admin Center to be able to edit/change whatever names are decided upon by YaBB's team.

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Derek Barnstorm Support Team YaBB Next Team Development Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,269 Location: United Kingdom None	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #12 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 6:58pm
	Bill Myers wrote on Feb 27^th, 2013 at 6:53pm: That is why I would love to see the continuing ability through the Admin Center to be able to edit/change whatever names are decided upon I wish it was that easy with real life names.


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JonB YaBB Administrator YaBB Next Team Operations Team Beta Testers Support Team Offline Posts: 4,231 Location: Land of the Blazing Sun! YaBB 2.6.1	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #13 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 7:32pm
	OK - I have to say NOOOO to the italicized part of this: Quote: I'm tending toward the idea of renaming Global Moderator to Admin Assistant. Then the new moderator position can be Global Moderator or Forum Moderator. Talk about a way to have support issue confusion. Let us just agree that Global Moderator may be a bit misleading - BUT - A. Its a going part of YaBB's culture, functionality and code - and has been since 2.x (apparently). I never ran a 1.x forum so I can't speak to that. B. Talk about headaches for upgrades/going forums. C. ALL the changes needed. D. How to handle the politics of existing GM's being made into Admin Assistants? --------------------------------------------------- We only need a name for the 'new' position - it should be unique. For what it is worth, there's another Candidate - what it is in 3.0: "YaBB Moderator" Its a position (comes from an Admin Edit), works like what is developed for 2.5.4., it simply was not finished (And that is why it is not in use here - I tested it and found it was not complete). I suggest we choose between "YaBB Moderator" and "Forum Moderator" BTW - my Admin Assistant comment was a JOKE although clearly not a very good one.
	« Last Edit: Feb 27^th, 2013 at 7:34pm by JonB »
	I find your lack of faith disturbing.
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Derek Barnstorm Support Team YaBB Next Team Development Team Beta Testers Offline Posts: 1,269 Location: United Kingdom None	Re: Name for the new moderator position Reply #14 - Feb 27^th, 2013 at 7:41pm
	Jon, Where are you getting this "YaBB3 YaBB Moderator" from? I don't remember anything about there being another mod group adding to YaBB3. If you're talking about the position in Admin Center => Member Groups, then that is the board moderator position which has been there for as long as I can remember. It's there so you can change the color, stars etc. information...
	« Last Edit: Feb 27^th, 2013 at 7:44pm by Derek Barnstorm »

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